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: My friend has accepted this job, which I think is a scam. Here's one of the emails:

our customer has sent you a check for 5936. It is written out to you.
An envelope will be delivered to your address via USPS, approximately on
03/25/2012.
Here is the tracking number for you to track the delivery: xxxt6788.
Please, let me know, as soon as the check is delivered.

You need to cash the check and send the money via Western Union (Money in
Minutes Service) to our customer:
First name: LARA
Last name: KULOVA
City : Saint-Petersburg
Country : Russia


The best ways for you to cash the check are:

1. Deposit the check into an ATM machine of your bank (preferred, because money
will be available in 1-2 days or instantly)
2. At Wal*Mart
3. Ace check Express
4. Grocery store
5. At any check cashing or cash advance store
6. At the bank which issued it
7. Cash it at your bank

Please note, that if you transfer money within two business days after receiving
the envelope, your commission will be higher.

So if you make the transfer within two business days:
Amount to be sent is 4749
The Western Union commission is 297
Your salary is 890


If you make the transfer later than that (beginning with the third business
day):
Amount to be sent is 5164
The Western Union comission is 297
Your salary is 475





Please, deduct all additional fees (if any) from the amount to be sent.


Print out important information from this letter or carefully write it down on
paper and check the spelling after filling in the Send Money form. And make sure
that the receiver's name is spelled correctly on the Western Union receipt.

As soon as you send the money, please e-mail me the following transfer details:
1. Western Union MTCN (10-digit control number)
2. exact transfer amount
3. the sender's and receiver's names (as shown on the WU receipt)



Thank you,
Financial Manager,
Yes, my friend is extremely ignorant. I have to explain EVERYTHING to him, and even then, he still doesn't get it.
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: Obvious scam. How can people be this dumb?
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: LMAO!!! How much MORE obvious does a scam need to be before Darwinism takes over?? What legit employer, and what legit reason, has a person send you a check ONLY to send most of it right back to them??? I would love to hear the rationale for that. Your "friend" is not too bright!!

Edit:
LOL! Do yourself a favor and get a new friend. You can only become dumber by hanging around this person!!
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: Scam.
She should take the cheque and bring it to the police fraud department, and see what they have to say about it.
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: This is the same scam that's been floating around for a long time, the only difference is now they are saying Russia instead of Nigeria.
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: Fake
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: Oh please, he's not really falling for this one, is he? The check he receives will eventually bounce and he'll be out whatever money he has sent.
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: Junk, absolutely. Just tell him to never even open such junk emails in the first place.
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: 100% scam.

There is no job.

There is only a scammer trying to steal your hard-earned money.

The next email will be from another of the scammer's fake names and free email addresses pretending to be the "secretary/assistant/accountant" and will demand you cash a large fake check sent on a stolen UPS/FedEx billing account number and send most of the "money" via Western Union or moneygram back to the scammer posing as the "supply company" while you "keep" a small portion. When your bank realizes the check is fake and it bounces, you get the real life job of paying back the bank for the bounced check fees and all the bank's money you sent to an overseas criminal.

Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer. Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.

When you refuse to send him your cash he will send increasingly nasty and rude emails trying to convince you to go through with his scam. The scammer could also create another fake name and email address like "FBI@ gmail.com", "police_person @hotmail.com" or "investigator @yahoo.com" and send emails telling you the job is legit and you must cash the fake check and send your money to the scammer or you will face legal action. Just ignore, delete and block those email addresses. Although, reading a scammer's attempt at impersonating a law enforcement official can be extremely funny.

Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his 'potential sucker' list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.

You could post up the email address and the emails themselves that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.

Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, you could google for information. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don't bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn't worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.

Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.

6 "Rules to follow" to avoid most fake jobs:
1) Job asks you to use your personal bank account and/or open a new one.
2) Job asks you to print/mail/cash a check or money order.
3) Job asks you to use Western Union or moneygram in any capacity.
4) Job asks you to accept packages and re-ship them on to anyone.
5) Job asks you to pay visas, travel fees via Western Union or moneygram.
6) Job asks you to sign up for a credit reporting or identity verification site.

Avoiding all jobs that mention any of the above listed 'red flags' and you will miss nearly all fake jobs. Only scammers ask you to do any of the above. No. Exceptions. Ever. For any reason.

If you google "fake check cashing job", "fraud Western Union scam", "check mule moneygram scam" or something similar you will find hundreds of posts from victims and near-victims of this type of scam.
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: Welcome to the wonderful world of scams.

This one works entirely on the accurate belief that most people in the US do not know how check cashing works when something goes wrong.

Yes, banks will credit accounts within 3 days as a courtesy only. When the check is discovered to be a counterfeit or a stolen, the bank will come back and reverse the account entry. If your bank account is negative, they will report you to CHEX (no new account at any bank that subscribes to CHEX for a few years), will freeze the account and they can sue you to recover the money.

Cashing the check at Walmart or any other check cashing place just invokes the rules a different way. When the check bounces, they will still sue for the money.

Note the ruse to get you to send the money within 2 days (the better to beat the clock before the bank/cashier ask for their money back)—a “higher” commission. They can promise any commission they want—after all your money is real and theirs isn’t.

The MTCN, amount and names is a way for them to retrieve the money from Western Union from anywhere in the world immediately after they get the info. Once they have the money, you can’t get it back. The reason they need the info is because they are running this scam under 100s of names and can’t remember exactly which names they gave you.
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